Carri americani lima :MA VENNERO PRODOTTI ??



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Re: Carri americani lima :MA VENNERO PRODOTTI ??

Messaggioda Apone60 » 28 apr 2021, 2:24

E per concludere una rassegna di Caboose,anche in questo caso,passando con il mouse si legge codice e data.
Buona Notte Gianluca.
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Messaggioda Apone60 » 28 apr 2021, 2:26

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Messaggioda Talgo49 » 28 apr 2021, 15:15

Gianluca, che parata di carri! Siamo partiti dall'esistenza o meno di alcuni carri e stiamo scoprendo una produzione assai vasta di carri americani da parte di Lima. Forse ciò che trae in inganno nel valutare l'esistenza di questi carri consiste nel fatto che Lima, a differenza degli altri marchi, non mostrava a catalogo tutte le versioni di ciascun carro ma ne pubblicava solo una immagine citando nella didascalia le altre versioni come "disponibile anche". Certo che 15 caboose (o cabeese) sono tanti...

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Messaggioda berto75 » 28 apr 2021, 22:06

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Re: Carri americani lima :MA VENNERO PRODOTTI ??

Messaggioda Tartaruga » 3 mag 2021, 6:19

Hi,

There were actually a lot of models for the American market. Charmerz, AHM have offered products from Lima as early as 1973. However, the number of models was limited. From 1974 there was the new brand PMI where almost exclusively Lima products were offered. Here a few new color variants of the existing models were added. During this time, however, models were also offered under the Lima name, e.g. the 40" Flat Car (1976) was offered in two or three versions in a small edition. Towards the end of the 70s, regular US models were still offered by Model Power, but not much of the exotics were in the range. For this Lima itself between 1979/1980 with a distribution partner put up an own catalog for North America which contained a large number of color variants and were also actually produced. There was also a new form variant of a 50" box car. From the middle of the 80's there was a small surprise, a completely revised version of the Aclo C420 from Lima with cardan drive which were distributed in the USA by MRC. A very nice model based on the old C420 body from Lima.

Following are a few links to our forum with posts about US freight cars, there are also exotics from 1976 and 1979/80. In my collection are some more rare variants which are not published yet.







Following are links with information about Lima under other brand names:






Apone60: several of the box cars you listed are not from Lima. Even though there are similar pictures in the catalogs, they were never produced as far as we know today. As soon as you look at the cars from below, you can see very quickly which manufacturer they are from.

50" Box Car AP Rayonier Canada (Life-Like)
40" Box Car Illinois Central (Possibly from Liliput, Roco or Playart Hongkong)
40" Box Car Great Northern (Possibly from Liliput, Roco or Playart Hongkong)
40" Box Car Burlington Northern (Possibly from Liliput, Roco or Playart Hongkong)
40" Box Car Atlantic Coast Line (Possibly from Liliput, Roco or Playart Hongkong)


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Messaggioda Tricx » 6 mag 2021, 7:28

Bellissima rassegna di Carri, Apone !.... ma ce li hai tutti o alcuni fanno parte solo del tuo archivio fotografico ?

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Messaggioda Tartaruga » 7 mag 2021, 0:55

The 50' US refrigerator car from Lima is not exactly an unknown refrigerator car from Lima. Most know in the variant "Pacific Fruit Express". What is less known is the number of variants and that the car was listed for the first time in the 1971 Lima US catalog as 3221 "Libby's" and 3222 "Pennsylvania Railroad".
Until around 1975, the cars were detailed in the roof area with a separately applied Walkway. To save production costs, the Walkway was then integrated into the roof. The catalog illustrations in the 1975 and 1976 Lima catalog still show pictures with a separately attached Walkway. This can be easily verified based on the packaging from the time. From my model railroading point of view negative, because it was a very successful model railroad car for the time.


Lima - H0 - 3219 - Great Northern Railway (Walkway integrated at the roof, Walls at ends are red) (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3219E - Great Northern Railway (Walkway integrated at the roof, Walls at ends are red) (HornHook Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3221 - Libby's (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3221 - Libby's (Walkway integrated at the roof) (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3222 - Pennsylvania Railroad (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3222 - Burlington Northern (Walkway integrated at the roof) (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3223E - Canadion National (Walkway integrated at the roof) (HornHook Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3225 - Northern Pacific Railway (Walkway integrated at the roof) (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3226 - Pacific Fruit Express (Walkway integrated at the roof) (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3226 - Pacific Fruit Express (Walkway integrated at the roof) (HornHook Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3226E - Pacific Fruit Express (Walkway integrated at the roof, Walls at ends are black) (HornHook Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3227 - New York Central (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3227 - New York Central (HornHook Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3229 - Ferrocarriles Nacionales de México (Walkway integrated at the roof, brown roof) (Norm Coupler)
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Lima - H0 - 3230E - Chicago North Western (Walkway integrated at the roof) (HornHook Coupler)
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Messaggioda Tartaruga » 7 mag 2021, 13:13

Riccardo; Thank you for translating. My Italian is not so good to translate the texts understandably.

To the C420 there is still in our forum the possibly known contribution to the Alco C420 still in the version with the G-Motor.



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